Out of 285 Frying Pan into 295 Fire. Help!

[aquamac]

Right,

That lot is correct, still go with my NVCAPS. Your strings are working so that lot can be left alone. Screen grab will not work-silly me it needs QE! There is either something wrong somewhere else. Are you using a DSDT.aml file, if you are redo it with the new card in position. if you are using one from someone else, back it up and delete it.

Of course with all the messing around with Snow leo are you absolutely sure you have all the kexts and that they are the right ones.

Whereabouts do you live, USA? If you are in the UK, you could bring/Send the card to me, I am sure I could get it working.

[macwynn]

Frustrated would be a word for it. I really am good at this... Seriously. Feel like a child.

OK... here's one weird one.... system reports my card in Windows as...

1st Device
PCIROOT(0)#PCI(0700)#PCI(0000)#PCI(0000)#PCI(0000)

2nd Device
PCIROOT(0)#PCI(0700)#PCI(0000)#PCI(0200)#PCI(0000)

but SL says it is...

PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x7,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

So there is (If I read it right) a discrepancy in the first section where Win sees 0 and SL sees 1. Don't know if that is a problem or not but thought it worth mentioning.

Some things I HAVE done...

Removed DSDT.aml and tried without it. Same result.

Made a hex with PCIRoot being 1 and also 0 at the beginning. Same result.

Made a hex by swapping out the 2 towards the end with 0. I.E. reversing them in PCIRoot section 1 and 2. Same.

Tried NVinject, ATY_Init. and Natit with no string. All with stock kexts and EVGA 200 kexts. Same.

Tried taking out Graphics Mode. Only change is display goes to 1024X768 from 1280X1024.

I am sorry Aqua, I feel like a real limey. Isn't that what you Brits call dumb 'Mericans? heheheh

I really don't know what I am doing wrong. About to give up for the evening and install a fresh copy of SL or possibly just Leo onto a spare drive to see what I can see.

Any other recommendations welcome, that is if you don't ban me from your cozy nook on the Intertubes.

Thanks...

Mac Wynn

[macwynn]

Something may be wrong with the 64 vs. 32 bit kext thing. I am typically booting in 32bit but have done both for testing. This is weird when I rebuild my mkext tho.

sudo kextcache -v 1 -t -m /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext /System/Library/Extensions
InternalModemSupport.kext does not declare a kernel dependency; using com.apple.kernel.6.0.
BJUSBLoad.kext is missing dependencies (including anyway; dependencies may be available from elsewhere)
Warnings:
Personality CFBundleIdentifier differs from containing kext's (not necessarily a mistake, but rarely done):
IJ170b
IJ1735
IJ10cf
IJ1087
IJ10b6
IJ1091
IJ1700
IJ106b
IJ1095
IJ10c4
IJ1099
IJ10c8
IJ1056
IJ172b
IJ1712
IJ1708
IJ107d
IJ172f
IJ1064
IJ1716
IJ108b
IJ10ba
IJ1072
IJ10a1
IJ1068
IJ1724
IJ108f
IJ10be
IJ1076
IJ10a5
IJ1080
IJ1728
IJ1732
IJ109d
IJ1084
IJ10b3
IJ170c
IJ10a9
IJ1736
IJ171a
IJ1088
IJ10b7
IJ10c1
IJ1701
IJ1096
IJ10c5
IJ1705
IJ107a
IJ10c9
IJ172c
IJ1061
IJ1709
IJ1713
IJ107e
IJ1065
IJ1717
IJ1721
IJ108c
IJ10bb
IJ1073
IJ10a2
IJ1069
IJ1725
IJ10bf
IJ109a
IJ1081
IJ10b0
IJ1077
IJ10a6
IJ1729
IJ109e
IJ10cd
IJ1733
IJ1085
IJ10b4
IJ170d
IJ1737
IJ1093
IJ10c2
IJ171b
IJ106d
IJ10d0
IJ1097
IJ10c6
IJ1706
IJ1710
IJ107b
IJ10aa
IJ172d
IJ1714
IJ107f
IJ1070
IJ1718
IJ1722
IJ108d
IJ10bc
IJ1074
IJ1726
IJ1730
IJ109b
IJ10ca
IJ1078
IJ10a7
IJ1082
IJ10b1
IJ170a
IJ109f
IJ1734
IJ1090
IJ1086
IJ10b5
IJ170e
IJ106a
IJ10b9
IJ1094
IJ10c3
IJ171c
IJ106e
IJ1098
IJ10c7
IJ1055
IJ1707
IJ107c
IJ172e
IJ1063
IJ1715
IJ10af
IJ108a
IJ1067
IJ10a0
IJ1719
IJ1723
IJ108e
IJ10bd
IJ10a4
IJ1727
IJ1731
IJ109c
IJ1079
IJ10a8
IJ1083

Dependency Resolution Failures:
64-bit kexts must use com.apple.kpi.* libraries, not com.apple.kernel* libraries.

Created mkext archive /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext.

Any thought as to what is going on? I know Logitech COntrol Center gives me some errors when booting in verbose, but not mission critical errors...

Mac Wynn

[aquamac]

Go with the windows detection. As I say GFX strings detection is flakey with snow Leo. Your location paths according to windows then adapted to mac should be as follows:

PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x7,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x7,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

Not sure about your last post, I only use 64 bit by putting

<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string>_x64</string>

into my com.apple.boot.plist.

Sounds like a fresh install is needed here. How are you installing?

[macwynn]

Ok I put a new SL install on a fresh disk.

One thing right off the bat is i am sure gfxutil display is giving me the right numbers except they aren't. What I mean is EVERYONE'S PCIRoot comes out as a 1 where mine reads a 3.

hence....

PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x3,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

No aqua, I moved my card back to slot 1 so as not to confuse things or make them more wonky... I have....

1. Installed a fresh copy and used your strings, made some my own, used cham RC3, PC-EFI 10.4.1 and 10.5 boot files, and updated to 10.6.1 with fresh kexts for NV* and Ge* when the EVGA ones (force installed from ind. packages) would not work. Had some weird issues with Geforce.kext and NVDAResman.kext having load errors at boot but seem to eb over that.

Have booted into 64 and 32 bit mode with all these combos.

Have done a number of other things and I simply can't figure it out.

Is there ANYTHING else I can do to get this figured out? I am ready to trade this to anyone with a 285 1gb. Almost.... I hate to lose and I already paid $120 to go from a 285 to a 295.

I KNOW I can get this to work but I just need a push in the right direction. This card is basically 2 260's hardwired together right?

What is the deal with it saying 3 in PCIRoot where everyone else is 1? Do you think it may have something to do with HDMI output thru DVI? I have tried straight through DVI though and unless something "flipped" inside the card from being hooked up to HDMI via a DVI adapter I can't think of what else would be doing this.

I had less problems with a 9800GX2.

Have to pick the tough ones. Actually others seem to have done this no prob which really makes me think something is weirdly wrong, although it works fine in Win7.

Help me..... heeellllpppp meeee....

Please.

Mac Wynn

[macwynn]

I had read in some posts relating to nFOrce mobos to have PCIClassMatch Geforce and NVDAResman kexts in the /Extra folder.

Any help on what that means and how to make em?

I know one thing, I am really having a few issues trying to figure out what kexts are 32 and which are 64 overall.

I have a feeling that 64 and 32 bit kexts being mixed up could be an issue too, but many of these don't say what they are, like the EVGA kexts... I am assuming they are 32 but I dunno.

Mac Wynn

[macwynn]

I have no idea why.

I ran Kext Spy and they aren't loaded.

Ack.

MW

[macwynn]

Ok I am a little closer.

Used your in.plist you sent me Aqua, changed the 7's in PCIRoot to 3's as I put the card back in slot 1. Got 1920X1080 with QE in Leo 10.5.7! Woohoo!

Plugged in second DVI and both screens go black.

Copied the string to my SL drive but I am having kextload probs in SL with NVResman and Geforce kexts. No matter what I try same thing, doing this all in 32 bit mode with Cham RC3 (Large disk support) same as on Leo.

Have tried the kexts from the iAtkos v7 GT200 pkg, the EVGA ones, and the straight 10.6.1 kexts and no go.

Going back to Leo now, last thingI tried was a combo update to 10.5.8 and it hung about 75% of the way thru. Hoping I can boot in still. With this string I at least know 1 screen with QE at full res works. Now need to bug hunt some more....

Any suggestions as always appreciated and welcomed.

MW

[macwynn]

Ok Aqua, here's my plist and hex code. I have 1920X1080 with QE/CI but when I plug in a second display all goes black. This is on Leo BTW, SL still having kext load errors.

Any editing suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks....

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x3,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>@2,#adress-cells</key>
<string>0x01000000</string>
<key>@2,#size-cells</key>
<string>0x00000000</string>
<key>@2,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,gpu-diode</string>
<key>@2,hwctrl-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,hwsensor-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,name</key>
<string>sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,reg</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BAAAAAAADwAAAAAAAAAABwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>NVPM</key>
<data>
AQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAOA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>62.00.6C.00.01</string>
</dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x3,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>@2,#adress-cells</key>
<string>0x01000000</string>
<key>@2,#size-cells</key>
<string>0x00000000</string>
<key>@2,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,gpu-diode</string>
<key>@2,hwctrl-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,hwsensor-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,name</key>
<string>sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,reg</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BAAAAAAADwAAAAAAAAAABwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>NVPM</key>
<data>
AQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAOA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>62.00.6C.00.02</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>

HEX STRING FROM in.plist


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You rock. But you know that.

MW

[macwynn]

Anything I can do to give you the ammo you need. But when you DO FIX it like I know you will I would like to know how, because it will drive me nuts not knowing.

Thanks and Cheerie-o pal. I'd say Mate but that's Aussie and that would be bad.

www.3dvfxdesign.com/files/IOREG-display0-1.jpg


www.3dvfxdesign.com/files/IOREG-display0-2.jpg

Hope it helps nail down the problem. Once I am set in Leo I will tackle the kext issues in SL. And I still want to know why everyone else's 296 shows up with a PCIRoot of 1 where mine says 3. Weird.

MW

[macwynn]

This is with just the 10.6.1 update, installing these files after deleting the ones in S/L/E to get "clean" kexts.

I ran this....

kextcache -v 1 -m /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext /System/Library/Extensions/

and got this....

NVDAResman.kext is invalid; can't resolve dependencies.
GeForce.kext is missing dependencies (including anyway; dependencies may be available from elsewhere)
InternalModemSupport.kext does not declare a kernel dependency; using com.apple.kernel.6.0.
NVDANV40Hal.kext is not valid; omitting from mkext.
NVDANV50Hal.kext is not valid; omitting from mkext.
NVDAResman.kext is not valid; omitting from mkext.
BJUSBLoad.kext is missing dependencies (including anyway; dependencies may be available from elsewhere)
NVDAResman.kext is invalid; can't resolve dependencies.
GeForce.kext is missing dependencies (including anyway; dependencies may be available from elsewhere)
NVDANV40Hal.kext is not valid; omitting from mkext.
NVDANV50Hal.kext is not valid; omitting from mkext.
NVDAResman.kext is not valid; omitting from mkext.

Any clue as to why they would not be valid? Am running in 32 bit mode but I doubt it will change anything running in 64.

I think for compatibility sake right now I would prefer to stay in 32. 64 when apps like Final Cut really want it.

MW

[aquamac]

Wrote a big long post this morning before work and lost the lot because my wife's internet connection crapped out on her laptop. Well here we are, it's 8 pm and I just got back from my boys parents evening - I'm bushed!

Good that you got some result with Leo! In system profiler did it show both cards as 295 or did it show one card as "Display"?
This is a biggie as if both cards were shown properly, then your motherboard might just be good enough to support such a card. If one card is shown as "Display", then it's still not certain, but it's a start for sure.

Are you using a retail copy of snow leopard or a dodgy one that seems weird that you are getting the info with the kexts. You are not trying to use Leopard kexts in Snow Leo are you? They will not work any more than Snow kexts in Leo as they are totally different.

Please let me know,

Cheers,

aqua

[macwynn]

Hey Aqua...

Let's see....

Both show up as GTX 295 in System Profiler. Correct RAM and all.

As to the kexts, I have tried the ones from the 10.6.1 update, and the EVGA/nVidia 285 kexts. None of those work. I know that 10.6.1 replaces some NV kexts and I believe Ge kexts but not sure if graphics wise anything else is needed or if I just need the 10.6 kexts. Will need to do a fresh install on the system if so. Think I can pullem out of the 10.6 iso with Pacifist? If so, do the Ge and NV kexts and then anything else?

Good thing I have a few drives.

Retail copy of Snow, always retail whenever possible. Over the years I probably have owned 20 retails in one way or another.

Anything else I can provide? Cause I will.

Thanks...

MW

[macwynn]

OK. Got QE/CI at full res one screen in SL.

Installed the kexts from the 10.6 disc and then updated to 10.6.1.

Still have 1 screen, goes to black with 2nd dvi plugged in.

thoughts? We're close! FInally....


MW

[aquamac]

Can you show me a paste from Sys profiler or maybe grab is working now!

PS are you using the NVCAPS that I supplied in the input.plist I made?