What the f****!?

[carrocka]

Could this be possible???
My flashed Radeon 9800pro has higher xbench score than my flashed 6800Ultra!!

Radeon:
Results 88.91
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.10 (8R218)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerMac3,5
Processor PowerPC G4x2 @ 1.80 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.80 GHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,R350
Drive Type ST3500630A
Quartz Graphics Test 86.44
Line 65.78 4.38 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 78.32 23.38 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 80.50 6.56 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 88.45 2.23 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 162.80 10.18 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 91.53
Spinning Squares 91.53 116.11 frames/sec


6800Ultra:
Results 80.70
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.10 (8R218)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerMac3,5
Processor PowerPC G4x2 @ 1.80 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.80 GHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL
Drive Type ST3500630A
Quartz Graphics Test 78.18
Line 65.98 4.39 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 77.47 23.13 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 78.49 6.40 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 87.77 2.21 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 85.07 5.32 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 83.38
Spinning Squares 83.38 105.77 frames/sec

I also think that the games run a bit smoother with the Radeon, especilally UT2004!!

I'm totally confused

[carrocka]

Can nobody help??

[nikonnut]

Carrocka,
I'm not to sure I would trust Xbench. Give OpenMark a try as well as Open GL Extensions Viewer first and see if they confrim your results(I'm guessing they won't).Also, any idea what your clock speeds are? Could be that your ROM has underclocked your core and memory which might cause a performance hit. For a base line my OpenMark score with a 6800GT at 350/500 was a 11751( on a 22" monitor set @ 1680*1050*32). This was in a DA with a 1.4Ghz proc upgrade and 1.5GBs of RAM. Good luck and keep us informed.

Cheers,
Chris

[aquamac]

Nikonnut is right, xbench is not to be believed when it comes to graphics tests unfortunately, the two that are mentioned are a good way to test. Shame there is not an equivalent to 3-D Mark for OSX.

[carrocka]

HAHA...thats crazy
Results 90.92
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.10 (8R218)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerMac3,5
Processor PowerPC G4x2 @ 1.80 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.80 GHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card GeForce4 MX
Drive Type ST3500630A
Quartz Graphics Test 83.76
Line 65.18 4.34 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 75.94 22.67 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 75.82 6.18 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 85.71 2.16 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 157.99 9.88 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 99.42
Spinning Squares 99.42 126.12 frames/sec

[carrocka]

The main thing is that it feels like the geforce runs the games the best???
With my 6800Ultra pluged in, I cant run doom3 at lower details and resolution smoothly!

[reddrag0n]

carrocka said:

With my 6800Ultra pluged in, I cant run doom3 at lower details and resolution smoothly!

Your kidding right?
I have a PCI 5200 in my Sawtooth with a single G4 1.4ghz cpu and 768 megs of ram. I can run Doom 3 at low to med settings without any problem. So how come your more powerful 6800 can't handle it?

[carrocka]

Thats the thing I dont understand...even in HALO I have performance probs, because it runs very slow sometimes.
What else could it be??Perhaps the RAM?? I removed one of my 512 mb modules after serious kernel panics.
Now it works, but perhaps I removed the wrong one?? I'm thinking about replacing all with three new from the same brand.

[nikonnut]

Carrocka,
What kind of results are you getting from the Halo time demo? I had a 9800 Mac Edition and it got about 30 FPS (with everything on max) while the 6800GT got about 33 FPS. As an aside, when HALO started running badly on my G4 I called Sonnet and they had me RMA the processor. It was verified to be bad. Just a thought.

[carrocka]

I got 44fps with the Halo time Demo, and now halo works well.
Don't know what the problem was.
The nex Problem I have is much more annoying and I opened a new thread for that, because I think that I probably won't be the only one with that.

thx for all
carrocka